BREAKING NEWS! A Sneak into SIHH-2012:- Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon - The First Cartier in-house Geneva Seal Minute Repeater. 00.00hrs, 16th December 2011, Singapore. More details to follow, but meanwhile, each of the following pictures should worth at least a thousand words! a1.jpg mod_embed_images_loadimage('d38a8dec3098e15ff14aa16b0564fc34', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fa1.jpg', 'http://photos.revolution-press.com/jaw/cartier/sihh2012/repeater/a1.jpg', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,check_scaling=1,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fa1.jpg', '', 1004448, 1300, 3000, 'Loading image ...', false); a2.jpg mod_embed_images_loadimage('90a572b8e463125363eaad5488bee925', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fa2.jpg', 'http://photos.revolution-press.com/jaw/cartier/sihh2012/repeater/a2.jpg', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,check_scaling=1,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fa2.jpg', '', 1004448, 1300, 3000, 'Loading image ...', false); 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b3.jpg mod_embed_images_loadimage('d9d3333cd427ad3e46eb965df0a8c88f', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fb3.jpg', 'http://photos.revolution-press.com/jaw/cartier/sihh2012/repeater/b3.jpg', 'http://revo-online.com/forums/main/addon.php?33,module=embed_images,check_scaling=1,url=http%3A%2F%2Fphotos.revolution-press.com%2Fjaw%2Fcartier%2Fsihh2012%2Frepeater%2Fb3.jpg', '', 1004448, 1300, 3000, 'Loading image ...', false); Jaw http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004448#msg-1004448 Mon, 20 May 2013 17:12:52 -0500 Phorum 5.2.13 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004516#msg-1004516 Re.: A remarkable timepiece indeed! http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004516#msg-1004516 especially when she opened her presentation with the Pocket Watch Skeleton Grande Complication.
I had not expected to see a pocket watch in the line up of the Fine Watchmaking Collection at all
and this one with it's incredible looks and complicated movements exceeds all expectations.

But the presentation of the Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon was as interesting.
The fact that the titanium version sounds better than the gold version, was new for me.
Both versions have a very nice and clear sound, but there is a difference of 5db and that is noticeable.
The titanium version is very sexy, with that so well balanced and designed dial and I will try to make
(or arrange) a wrist shot in January.
GEO]]> Geo Cartier Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:54:29 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004514#msg-1004514 Although well recorded... http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004514#msg-1004514
Although I don't remember it as loud as portrayed in the video, this is most probably due to the piece of wooden plank used by SJX in contact with the watch. That increases the effective vibration surface area and make it seems even louder than it is (already quite loud).

Having said that, the volume measured by Cartier at 68dB is impressive.

Jaw]]> Jaw Cartier Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:01:19 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004508#msg-1004508 Many thanks for the update! http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004508#msg-1004508 Such a timepiece! I just love the looks, and it is one of the SIHH-12 pieces that I can well imagine wearing. Although, not on a day-to-day basis, working in a print shop with my hands in and out of machinery all day! :)
I think, as you say, that it would have a wonderful fit on even an average size or smaller wrist. When I consider the Calibre to be well fitting. Although the Calibre case is 42mm, when you add the crown and the crown protector, it comes slightly more than 45mm, and it is still very wearable. More comfortable, in fact, than my 34mm and 36mm Rolexes!
Just the way the lugs are shaped and positioned on the Minute Repeater, makes me think it would be very comfortable.
I personally find this one of the most appealing of all such pieces.
Thanks again for the update.
Cheers,
Carl]]> Carl Cartier Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:55:28 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004507#msg-1004507 A remarkable timepiece indeed! http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004507#msg-1004507 I am personally overwhelmed by all of these SIHH-2012 models, especially with the Grand Complications. Understanding the workings of a basic mechanical movement that only tells the time is in itself a daunting task for me, let alone the complicated ones. Not to mention the price points and the practicality of actually wearing one.
Getting past all of that, however, I must marvel at the aesthetic beauty of the watches, created by both the movements themselves and the way they integrate with the dials and cases. Especially this Minute Repeater. I was mesmerized by the sound of that chime. To me, it just seems the appropriate function for such a beautiful work of art.
Funnily enough, I have often looked at the Calibre on my wrist, with the gorgeous details on the dial, and wished that somehow it could have the same function.
Cheers,
Carl]]> Carl Cartier Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:40:52 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004504#msg-1004504 And don't forget the sound http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004504#msg-1004504 SJX posted a sound file




at YouTube
When you check that out you will be pretty amazed.
In real life it's more beautiful than thru your laptop speakers of course.
This is the titanium version.
GEO]]> Geo Cartier Sun, 18 Dec 2011 08:21:04 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004478#msg-1004478 Re.:Amazing watch. http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004478#msg-1004478 It's indeed an incredible good looking movement and I am glad that there are glass backs these days,
so these good looking movements are visible all the time.
It would be a shame to lock them up in a closed case.
Regarding your question about the Teaser film, that is a different product.
It probably is a watch from the 'mainstream collection' and we will only find out more about it in January
when the SIHH opens. I can't wait to find out what it is too.
For now, only these four pieces from the 'Fine Watch Making Collection', were pre-presented.
GEO]]> Geo Cartier Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:30:08 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004475#msg-1004475 Cartier & Minute Repeaters http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004475#msg-1004475 Martin Green Cartier Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:03:55 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004466#msg-1004466 Amazing watch. http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004466#msg-1004466 But what I miss here is the outcome of the teaser film that was posted some weeks ago, do you have any news, what that will be?
Pedro]]> pedro Cartier Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:32:41 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004462#msg-1004462 Attachement to JAW's post; Cartier's Official Press Release http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004462#msg-1004462 It's actually since quite some time that Cartier is presenting again a Minute repeater
and this time in combination with a flying tourbillon.
The new developed in house movement calibre 9402 MC, Geneva Seal,
is housed in the well known Rotonde case in 45mm with a sapphire glass bottom.
Extremely smart looking watch, with a fantastic wrist presence. Sure 45mm quite a watch,
but the Rotonde case fits also a smaller wrist very good.


- Thanks to Kristian Haagen for this picture -

During the presentation in La Chaud-de-Fonds, Carole Forestier-Kasapi explained
and showed us the difference between the various materials that could be used for the case.
When one decides for a high end watch like a minute repeater, the obvious choice for the case
is quite often platinum, but we learned from Carole that actually for the tone intensity,
this is not the best option.
Yellow gold sounds better than white gold, but titanium sounds best of all!
Amazing to hear the difference in a room full with people.
Cartier decided to use a push button, which is not so common, for minute repeaters,
otherwise the case would have been bolder.

Underneath is the official press release by Cartier,
about the 'Cartier Tourbillon Repetition Minute Tourbillon Volant',
since nobody better than Cartier, can explain the complexity of this time piece.

Thanks to JAW for the great life shots in the above post!

GEO




- Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch, calibre 9402 MC,
Geneva Seal: time for good vibrations -

Of all the complication models in existence, minute repeater watches are collectors’ favourites since they give purely
mechanical processes a more poetic dimension and offer the opportunity to follow the passage of time through music.
More subtly, the Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch reminds us that announcing the time of
day by means of sound has always been, in all civilisations, one of the exclusive prerogatives of the centres
of power and authority.
This ability to announce the time in a different way certainly gives this complication pride of place in the subtle
hierarchy of watchmaking features. Origins
People often ask who first invented the minute repeater watch and for what reason watchmakers were led in the past
to create such complex instruments having the capacity to tell the time through sounds.



Even after consulting numerous books on the subject, mystery still surrounds the date of invention of a timepiece that
calls on its users’ sense of hearing as well as on their sight. Some recognised historians trace the invention of the
repeater watch to an English watchmaker named Daniel Quare (1649-1724), since it is known that he publicly
presented a pocket timepiece of this type some time between 1680 and 1686. The only thing that is really certain is
that the majority of master watchmakers working during the second half of the 18th century contributed to improving
this extremely complex mechanism.
Of course minute repeater watches are no longer used to the same extent today as was the case in the past.
Nevertheless, their rarity and the quality of their workmanship continue to exert their fascination, even if sometimes
the strength and quality of their sound leave much to be desired.
Purity of sound
While the subjective nature of human vision allows us to form our impressions of different objects or decorative effects
in accordance with the level of education or the temperament of the observer, in questions of sound the ear is rarely
prepared to tolerate inaccuracies. For human beings hearing continues to be among the most highly-developed of the
senses. Even in modern conditions this most sensitive of the five senses is capable of analysing a vast range of
information. If the majority of this material is not retained at a purely auditive level, the brain nevertheless transcribes
what it registers in terms of the pleasure or disgust that it procures. Thus, even without having had formal musical
training, almost everybody can tell a right note from a false one on the basis of the pleasure obtained from hearing it.
This is why, when dealing with minute repeater watches, the main aspect to be considered is not merely their aesthetic
appearance, but also the sound they produce. For, like high-quality musical instruments, these timepieces with their
subtle mechanical designs are works of art whose magic takes effect through the auditory emotion they produce.
Which also explains why, in order to move the human spirit and inspire passion, the entire staff of the
Manufacture Cartier felt the need to rethink in scientific terms everything they thought they knew about repeating
timepieces in general and about minute repeater watches in particular.

Salon International de la Haute Horlogerie – Geneva, 16-20 January 2012.
A fresh approach to the theory of sound propagation
The Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater watch is the fruit of five years of research into watch acoustics. It was long
thought that the knowledge acquired over the centuries was sufficient. However, the rigorous quality standards and
the very conception of today’s watches together with modern methods of scientific analysis have brought to light a
significant number of defects in the way that time measurement is converted into sound.
Cartier’s Research and Development Department has thus taken up the challenge of offering lovers of fine watchmaking
a minute repeater watch which, while remaining traditional in its design, represents a synthesis of in-depth acoustic
research as applied to watchmaking.
The Cartier watch movement development team has set itself the task of redefining the underlying scientific factors
on which the acoustic appreciation of a minute repeater watch is based. As a starting point, it was necessary to
redefine the very concept of sound itself, which can be considered as the auditive sensation engendered by an
acoustic wave. This wave, which may be compared to the ripples produced by a stone that falls into water, displaces
particles in the medium of propagation. These constitute air vibrations that the middle ear transforms into vibrations
that can be analysed by the inner ear.
What the ear hears...
An organ of rare complexity, the ear, although extremely fragile in appearance, is capable of assimilating a large
amount of information to identify a sound and measure its force. Any given sound is the sum of a volume defined in
decibels (a unit of acoustic intensity as represented by the level of sound pressure exercised on the ear), of a pitch
(high or low), of a frequency (the number of vibrations engendered by the body of sound per second),
and of a duration (time period).
Each of these values that form the sound must be considered individually during the creation of a minute repeater
watch, and must ultimately lead to the transmission of a sound that is clear, powerful, regular and crystalline,
without any trace of echo or parasitical induction that could spoil the pitch of the notes intended to give a fine sound
dimension to time measurement.
... the eye sees
As one of the defining concepts for the Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch,
the Manufacture Cartier has paid particular attention to the presentation of the external parts of this state-of-the-art
watch with a classic personality.





Numerous acoustic tests have been conducted so as to validate a certain number
of theories concerning the cases of watches with striking mechanisms.
Foremost among these are the tests carried out by Cartier’s team of engineers and watchmakers involving modules
made of different materials and enclosing the same music-box. These have made it possible to develop a new
watchmaking theory in relation to the transmission of sound, based on a relationship between volume (45 mm),
weight (approx. 32 grammes) and power (68 decibels).
The equation may best be summarised as follows: the lower the weight of a repeating watch’s case and the larger
its diameter, the greater its capacity to produce a loud sound. Which is why Cartier has chosen to present the
Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater watch in grade 5 polished titanium with a 45 mm diameter.Salon International
de la Haute Horlogerie – Geneva, 16-20 January 2012 7
For it is all a question of vibrations
To ensure the harmonious transmission of an acoustic wave, there needs to be a very strong link between the part
emitting the sound wave and the parts intended to receive it. Today Cartier proposes a new watchmaking concept
that consists of linking the gong to the plate and linking the plate to the middle of the case at four points.
To optimise this link, the heels of the two gongs of the minute repeater are finally screwed down,
each at a particular point inside the case. The perfect synergy between the case and the movement thus aids the
transmission of the vibrations.
Since square gongs allow the hammer to strike regularly at the same place despite the fact that the blade of the
gong has started to vibrate, the acoustic waves are thus harmoniously diffused throughout a wide emitting surface.
It is however essential that these harmonious sounds transmitted through the air be struck in a regular way so
that they can be both appropriately interpreted and specifically counted by the brain.
To produce the constant striking of the hammers, the Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch
is equipped with a mechanism known as an “inertia and friction governor”, which is particularly silent
and sophisticated.
Thanks to an aperture in the open-work dial, this objectively very efficient organ is visible with its slate-coloured
galvanised silver-plating in the extension of the flying tourbillon escapement positioned at 12 o’clock.
It enters into rotation so as to control the speed of the winding of the minute repeater’s strike-train and at the
same time ensure the regular emission of the notes sent out by the watch’s two gongs.
In this way the ear is enchanted by the tune marking the hour while at the same time the eye is captivated by the
frantic whirling of these two extremely complex mechanisms. In this dual action, one mechanism has the illustrious
task of regulating the passage of time at a rate of one revolution per minute and 21,600 vibrations per hour for
the balance. The other dedicates itself to moderating the rhythm of the music by controlling the winding of the
spring contained in the barrel of the minute repeater mechanism manually reloaded by means of a push-piece
incorporated into the case middle at 8 o’clock. The choice of a push-piece to replace the traditional bolt that is
habitually observed on the side of minute repeater watch cases, answers the need to reduce the case mass / gong
mass ratio that determines the power of the vibrations. Being smaller and, in particular, being concentrated at one
specific point on the case, the push-piece thus enables the mass of the case to be significantly reduced.
Marking time with sound
Connoisseurs of fine mechanical devices will be sure to turn back the time again and again once they have activated
the push-piece positioned at 8 o’clock so as to enjoy the whirling dance of the strike-trains, racks, star-wheels and
snails found in the fascinating minute repeater mechanism. This watch, with its 45 mm diameter and available in
titanium or in pink gold, has a 9402 MC movement, 447 parts and 47 jewels,
and bears the Geneva Seal – the mark of its impeccable quality of craftsmanship. It will be appreciated for its
incredibly light weight, achieved through the extremely delicate nature of its mechanical parts, and will be proud
to demonstrate the clarity and power of its strikes to whoever cares to listen.



An exceptional model combining two of watchmaking’s traditional grand complications,
the Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon watch is the first representative of a new generation of
high-level timepieces. Proposed in a numbered limited edition of 50 models in titanium and 50 models in pink gold,
this new Cartier creation also exists in a version set with baguette-cut diamonds.

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]]> Geo Cartier Fri, 16 Dec 2011 02:30:21 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004461#msg-1004461 Thanks Suzanne, very impressive for a first in-house Minute Repeater. http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004461#msg-1004461
Cartier chose a very scientific approach when making and testing the Minute Repeater and based on the preliminary prototype, the tonal quality is good and the volume is more than sufficient to me. Though not the loudest ever, Cartier said the Titanium version measured 68dB and the Pink Gold 65dB, a very impressive performance.

Human testing is subjective and is subject to possible hearing imperfection, our ear response to frequency, tone and loudness varies and deteriorates steadily as we age and I always find it kind of funny when I was told that so and so brand minute repeaters are tested personally by the CEO, although I understand fully the emotional appeal of such a statement.

I will write more if my Indonesian schedule is not too bad.

Regards and thanks,
Jaw]]> Jaw Cartier Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:37:01 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004460#msg-1004460 Beautiful pictures, Jaw! http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004460#msg-1004460 Suzanne Wong Cartier Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:12:44 -0600 http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004448#msg-1004448 BREAKING NEWS! A Sneak into SIHH-2012:- Rotonde de Cartier Minute Repeater Flying Tourbillon - The First Cartier in-house Geneva Seal Minute Repeater. http://revo-online.com/forums/main/read.php?33,1004448,1004448#msg-1004448
More details to follow, but meanwhile, each of the following pictures should worth at least a thousand words!



































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