A few real photographs of the IWC Vintage - Jubilee Edition 1868-2008 Collection.

[Jaw]

00,20hrs, Singapore, 22nd March 2008.




The "Vintage" Collection.

Well, the news has been out at IWC website for some time and there is nothing new in what I posted below.

Basically, I assume all Horomundians know about the collection and has already formed their opinions about the watches. There should be more discussions and I am certain watch enthusiasts within and outside of Horomundi will have a lot more to say about this interesting collection.

Personally, i feel that this historical reissue is likely to receive very strong support from the IWC fans and I have little doubt that the watches will be commercially successful.


A casual shot of the 6 watches, they dont do justice to the real watches.

Certainly, there will be other IWC products at SIHH-2008 than the already publicised "Father & Son" and the "Vintage" collection. Internally, there are reasons to believe that IWC are extremly confident with their coming 2008 performance.

With a strong brand equity and a very commercial 2008 products, some speculated that the highly successful financial based product strategy started some years ago has paid big dividend. By the end of fiscal year 2008 (ending 31st March 2009), according to unconfirmed market grapevine, IWC believes that this is the year to achieve their internal confidential target of surpassing the turnover of Jaeger-LeCoultre.


The Actual 6 vintage, not the reissue.

While there is little argument that IWC has a more loyal pool of fan base than many other other high end brands, only time will tell if 2008 will indeed be the windfall year as expected by some within IWC.

All I can offer is my best wishes to IWC and to observe their dynamism and their aggressive offensive.







Below are the Press Release of the "Vintage" Collection:


The Schaffhausen manufacturer is celebrating
its anniversary with six legendary wristwatches
from its past: the Portuguese, Ingenieur,
Pilot’s Watch, Da Vinci, Aquatimer,
Portofino – the watchmaking legends have
been brought out again as attractive vintage
models. For the celebration – and naturally
also the great joy of all lovers and collectors
of the brand.

It all started more than 140 years ago in Boston
where the talented and enterprising watchmaker
Florentine Ariosto Jones was looking for an opportunity
to set up on his own and do things
much differently and better than his colleagues
in the flourishing American watch industry. The
director of F. Howard Watch & Cie at that time,
he had of course heard of the little country of
Switzerland and its outstanding watchmakers.
And he was fired up by the information that workers
in the Swiss watch industry produced their
watches for amazingly low wages and in the main
with old machines. Wages in Switzerland were
then still really low, something that may seem
surprising today. And so a compelling business
idea came to F. A. Jones: Why not manufacture
quality watches in Switzerland under more favourable
conditions, but with new and better
machines, for the North American market?
His idea was conceived, planned and carried out:
in New York Jones set up a sales organization
with two business partners where pocket watch
movements manufactured in Switzerland were
to be put in cases and then sold throughout
North America. The company was given a grandsounding
name: International Watch Company.

And Jones set off by boat to Europe with his
watchmaker friend Louis Kidder. Along with a
whole host of ideas, the two men also took with
them machines for the mass production of parts
and finished design drawings for the first Swissmanufactured
watches.

Initial surprise: in the watchmaking centres of
western Switzerland where Jones had intended
setting up his business the innovator was given
the cold shoulder. The locals, who mainly produced
watch parts in their homes, feared the
modern machines and the concept of mass
production even if it did have the indisputable
advantage of consistent quality.

This is where the story could have ended. But in
western Switzerland Jones met Heinrich Moser,
a versatile industrialist from Schaffhausen. He
made the American an offer that was tempting
even if not completely altruistic: he could start
immediately in Schaffhausen, a small town in
northern Switzerland the American had certainly
never heard of until then – in industrial buildings
Moser owned. What persuaded him was that a
source of energy was already available there
for the machines – electricity was not even a
consideration then. A hydrostation built by Moser
brought the power required for the machines
directly into the factory using shafts and long
transmission cables. So in 1868 Jones arrived in
Schaffhausen – and Schaffhausen, a long way
from western Switzerland, got a watch factory.
Jones was, therefore, able to realize his bold
ideas. Even his principle of manufacturing highquality
watches with consistent tolerances
worked – and this was the beginning of the reputation
now enjoyed by Schaffhausen watches
throughout the world.

Six legends celebrate
140 years of IWC Schaffhausen

IWC Vintage Collection – Jubilee Edition 1868–2008
What had been a promising start in watchmaking
with the first “Jones calibres”, named after the
company’s founder, ended in difficulties commercially
for Jones when America did not lower
the 25 per cent war duty imposed in 1864 – contrary
to what was announced. The advantage
of lower Swiss wages vanished. Jones returned
to Boston and the “American watch factory”
passed into Swiss hands. However, the founder
did leave behind his particular aspiration for
sophisticated, ever-better technical solutions.
Despite the initial difficulties the manufacturer
became one of the most renowned producers
of sturdy and durable pocket watches.

And it was there right from the start at the turning
point in watchmaking history when the wristwatch
came into favour around 1900. The battle
about how to wear a watch was decided for
good by the 1930s and 1940s. The onset of this
period of technical innovation brought some
of the most exciting IWC watches, still much
sought-after by collectors today. Some of them
wrote watch history.

Six watches – six founding legends
of today’s IWC watch families

Six of these milestones have been brought back
as vintage models from the company’s proud
history into the modern day for the manufacturer’s
140th anniversary – even if it is not a “round”
one. Not as copies, something that IWC has
never done, but as new interpretations of good
old friends. Some with ultra-modern, up-to-date
automatic IWC movements which are also used
in the current series-produced models. Where
historical accuracy demands it they have been
equipped with hand-wound pocket watch movements
based on the 98-calibre, the most famous
IWC calibre and the one that has been made
for the longest, but they have also been expanded,
incorporating some of the elements of the
earliest Jones movements. And, to the extent
that their predecessors had not already appeared
in the IWC extra-large format, the case of
some of the vintage models has increased in size
on its journey through time, which on first sight
makes them distinguishable from the originals.
But in this way they have also taken on completely
new watch personalities. They illustrate
how, for example, a 1955 Ingenieur would have
looked if its case had had a 42.5 mm diameter
rather than 37.5 mm.

The six watches, which are available in unlimited
numbers in stainless steel with a black dial
and in limited numbers in platinum with a silverplated
dial, are more than just a “Best of” the
wristwatch era at IWC. Each one of them essentially
embodies the founding legends of the
manufacturer’s current watch families. The first
140 vintage watches in platinum have, though,
in a way already been reserved: as a special offer
they are available as a unique numbered set in
an ornate leather case.

Pilot’s Watch Hand-Wound


Real photograph of the Pilot Watch.


Media Photo of the Pilot Watch.

The first Pilot’s Watch of 1936 starts things off.
As the first special watch for the still young,
gruelling form of transport it already had almost
all the important features on board: for example
a black dial with strong, luminescent hands and
numerals that was the model for the development
of the classical cockpit design, and later
sometimes also a movement with antimagnetic
parts of the escapement. And the first of a long
series of professional pilot’s watches also had
a rotating ring with a luminous triangle which
helped with roughly calculating the flight time
and thus fuel consumption. The modern interpretation
of this mother of all IWC pilot’s watches
has the dial of the original, increased in size to
that of the 44 mm case, a small seconds hand
and a bidirectional adjustable rotating ring with
the luminous triangle fitted from the inside. Instead
of the 83-calibre, which was used in 1936,
the Pilot’s Watch Hand-Wound is equipped with
a special watchmaking gem – the 98300-calibre:
a hand-wound pocket watch movement, a balance
frequency of 2.5 Hz, large screw balance
and Breguet balance spring. The 98-calibre family,
the design of which dates from the 1930s, is
one of the IWC watch movements that has been
series-produced over the longest time. Where it
is used in the vintage watches, based on the
technical style of the first Jones calibres of 1868
it has the nickel-plated and decorative threequarter
plate made from nickel silver and the
elongated index for easier precision adjustment
of the active length of the balance spring, which
was characteristic of all Jones calibres. The founder
has thus left his mark here, something that
will naturally catch the eye. For it is not only the
actual “window” to the dial that is made of
sapphire glass but also the transparent back
cover. In addition, the sapphire glass over the
dial is coated.

Portuguese Hand-Wound




Real photograph of the Portuguese hand-Wound.


Media Photo of the Portuguese hand-wound.

The Portuguese of 1939 is a true watch legend.
And stylistically comes as close as possible to
the perfect ideal of a good watch design. As the
first “wristwatch” it established the large size
worn on the wrist that is very popular today. It
was also the first to break the taboo of wearing
a complete pocket-watch movement on one’s
arm. It was successful, and still is today for IWC.
It had established a completely new class of
watch. There is no question that, as founder of
a splendid family of IWC watches, the Portuguese
watch is one of the significant witnesses
of the company’s proud history. It got its name
from the fact that just such a watch was requested
by two Portuguese businessmen at the end
of the 1930s. They wanted a high-precision
watch that would embody their proud tradition
as a seafaring nation. From the start the “Portuguese”,
as it was only named years later, with
all its features was an unofficial marine chronometer
and laid out like a navigational instrument.
For the Portuguese Hand-Wound, from the numerous
dials used for the original Portuguese the
most optically interesting one has been chosen,
which has never been used for recent Portuguese
watches: Arabic numerals and graduations
for the indices alternate, the actual measuring
range is separated off at the dial centre
by another circle, the minute chapter ring is in
the “chemin de fer” – railway – style very popular
at the time. The same graphic elements also
appear in the seconds display circle. The case
(44 mm) with its fluted bezel and slightly pulleddown
strap lugs is in keeping with the original.

The Vintage Portuguese does differ from the
original – and the 1993 anniversary model – in that
it has antireflective, crossed out sapphire glass
over the dial. It is powered by the 98295-calibre
that is almost identical to the Vintage Pilot’s
Watch movement: hand-wound, a balance frequency
of 2.5 Hz, large screw balance, Breguet
balance spring, nickel-plated silver three-quarter
plate, pearled bridges decorated with Geneva
stripes. Here too the elongated index, the socalled
“Jones arrow”, which goes from the balance
cock to the plate, is a reference to the
company’s founder Florentine Ariosto Jones,
who founded the manufactory on the Rhine
140 years ago and got it up and running.
Ingenieur Automatic

The Ingenieur Automatic of 1955:




The Real photographs of the Ingenieur Automatic.


Media Photo of the Ingenieur Automatic.

No watch has
defined the “technical” profile of IWC quite like
the Ingenieur, which was introduced in 1955
and which was the first watch to feature the
IWC automatic movement developed by Albert
Pellaton. With its pawl-winding system and the
spring-mounted rotor, it has remained a benchmark
for watch technology at the highest level
– while retaining the ultimate degree of toughness.
This programmatic watch, which exemplifies
the watchmaking engineering of the Schaffhausen
manufacturer, launched IWC into the
modern era. An icon of a quality consciousness
handed down since 1868, it has remained in the
product range under a number of guises. In1989,
a legendary model, the Ingenieur 500,000 A/m,
set a world record with its antimagnetic components
for the resistance of a mechanical watch
against the most extreme magnetic fields.
Half a century after its first appearance, IWC’s
watchmaking icon was fundamentally revised.
That which more than 50 years ago ensured
toughness and reliability in the Ingenieur – first
as the 8531 and later as the 8541 calibre – today
finds its logical evolution in the IWC-manufactured
80110 and 80111 calibre. The Ingenieur
Automatic is equipped with this unit, which also
drives the “new” Ingenieur, presented in 2005.
The vintage watch features a 42.5-millimetre
case and one of the most stylish Ingenieur dials
– with the point-stroke indices (the luminescent
material forms the point) and the dauphine-style
hands. This model is today a collector’s rarity
of the very highest order. The modern homage to
this watch monument dispenses with the soft
iron case of the original, thus affording an insight
into the IWC-manufactured movement. With the
antireflective, crossed out sapphire glass over
the dial and the screw-in crown, the Vintage
Ingenieur is water-resistant to 12 bar.

Aquatimer Automatic
Real photo of the Aquatimer Automatic.


Media photo of Aquatimer Automatic.

The Aquatimer Automatic of 1967: When IWC
first took the plunge with its diver’s watches,
only a few pioneers such as Jacques-Yves
Cousteau or Hans Hass had discovered the
beauty but also the vulnerability of the underwater
world. But they helped to arouse people’s
enthusiasm for these last paradises. For case
makers in particular, manufacturing reliable
watches for use under such extreme pressure
conditions represented a challenge because
when diving, the health or even the life of a diver
depends on correct time management. IWC’s
answer was the first Aquatimer in 1967. This too
was the first member in a successful family lineage.
And some of its technical features, such as
the rotating inner bezel which is operated using
a second crown, are today a typical characteristic
of all of the current range of diver’s watches
from Schaffhausen. The Aquatimer Automatic in
its 44-millimetre case is of course a diver’s watch
designed for underwater use, equipped with the
pressure barriers and sealing systems of the
modern Aquatimer watches – with a screw-in
main crown and the self-sealing crown developed
at IWC to adjust the rotating bezel, which
improves handling owing to the fact that it is not
screwed in. The clear dial design corresponds to
that of the first generation of Aquatimer watches
right down to the details, yet is more readable
thanks to its new size. The pressure resistance
is tested to 12bar. With the 80111-calibre movement,
the Vintage Aquatimer is superbly powered
– it is the same movement that drives the
Ingenieur. And this was ultimately also the case
in 1967. The 8541-calibre automatic movement,
the toughest of its kind at that time, powered
both of these heavy-duty watches, namely the
Ingenieur and the Aquatimer. However, unlike
the historical model, the Vintage Aquatimer has
a see-through back cover.

Da Vinci Automatic




Real photographs of Da Vinci Automatic.


Media Photo of Da Vinci Automatic.

The Da Vinci Automatic of 1969: Some people
see in it a design challenge, whilst others regard
it as the ultimate expression of the avant-garde.
The first watch from IWC to be named after the
Renaissance genius proved to be a sensation
at its premiere appearance at the trade fair in
Basle, and in terms of its movement technology
at any rate it heralded a revolution. Equipped
with the first series-produced Beta 21 quartz
movement, which had been developed jointly by
several renowned Swiss watch manufacturers,
in 1969/1970 it set new standards at least as
regards accuracy. It measured time ten times
more precisely than a tested chronometer movement.
A relatively large quartz resonator stimulated
an electromagnetic vibrator, which via fine
ruby pawls drove a wheel with 250 teeth, which
rotated faster than once a second. This oscillation
transmission still bore some similarity to the
then likewise successful tuning-fork watches,
although the Beta 21 did not hum as noticeably.
IWC had taken great pains to ensure that the
first appearance of the new technology was
particularly elegant. Opinions were however
divided on this, for the triumphal march of the
quartz movements with stepping motors, which
were produced cheaply on an industrial scale
shortly after that, threatened the existence of the
traditional craft of watchmaking. For this reason,
in the end IWC decided against the “soulless”
quartz, and with the second Da Vinci from 1985
it opted decisively for highly developed mechanical
action. But the original watch from1969, in
its striking case with corners and edges, the
long stroke markers and the unadorned bar
hands, remains a piece of contemporary and
design history, now being brought to life again
as a vintage edition. A contemporary witness
with great recognizability, today it is almost an
exemplar of modernity once more. But to equip
the Da Vinci Automatic with a quartz movement
would have contravened IWC’s principles and
technical requirements. It too is equipped with
the IWC-manufactured 80111-calibre automatic
movement, with the tried-and-tested Pellaton
winding mechanism.

Portofino Hand-Wound


Real photo of Portofino Hand-Wound.


Media photo of Portofino Hand-Wound.

The Portofino of 1984: The most elegant but also
the most unassuming family of watches from
IWC, the Portofino – the classic example of understatement
– has decidedly stylish origins.

Collectors know this: it is the Reference 5251
watch, which was still produced until the end of
the 1990s, always in small quantities. It was impossible
to conceal its direct descent from an
elegant Lépine pocket watch produced for decades
by IWC. For it was, as regards the case,
nothing other than a pocket watch converted for
use on the wrist, equipped with narrow strap
brackets and a smaller crown, and with a very
flat original pocket watch movement (95-calibre).
The Portofino family, established in 1984, was
modelled exactly on its shape, thereby following
on in the old tradition of elegant, reliable utility
watches from IWC, frequently with a gold case.
It represented the “satisfaction in wearing a small
piece of gold on one’s arm every day”, as it was
put on the occasion of its launch. The Portofino
Hand-Wound, a dream of a watch with its narrow
Roman numerals, small seconds display and, as
a counterpart to it, a lunar phase display, does
however take this opportunity to correct a “quick
fix” used in the 1980s. For Reference 5251, as
it then was, had a charming flaw in that the
movement used normally drove an open Lépine
pocket watch. And that means that the winding
shaft and small seconds display are located in
a direct line, in contrast to the Savonette construction
of the movement, where the winding
shaft and small seconds display stand at an
angle of 90° to one another. However, the ultraflat
95-calibre for Reference 5251 did not exist
in the Savonette construction. And so here, the
two indications of lunar phase display and seconds
display ended up in a horizontal position
at “3.00” and “9.00” – which looked interesting,
but from the watchmaker’s point of view was
not quite right. In the Vintage Portofino, this
“positioning flaw” is remedied by the choice of
the 98800-calibre Savonette movement. And
through this, the lunar phase and seconds displays
finally end up at their traditional places,
at “12.00” and “6.00”. The movement based on
the 98 “Jones” calibre, with nickel-plated threequarter
plate of nickel silver, screw balance
wheel, Breguet spring and elongated index, has
undergone another fundamental optimization:
the display precision of the lunar phase has been
increased considerably compared with Reference
5251, and now deviates from the actual
lunar sequence by only one day in 122 years.
The lunar phase can moreover easily be corrected
via the crown. The case size of 46 mm corresponds
to that of the original. Antireflective,
crossed out sapphire glass and sapphire glass
back invite you to enjoy this magnificent new
example of a typical IWC wrist pocket watch
from all sides.

Features
Homage to IWC’s first watch specifically
for pilots from 1936, with hand-wound
pocket watch movement and rotating bezel,
platinum model limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 98300
Vibrations 18,000/ h / 2.5 Hz
Jewels 18
Power reserve 46 h
Winding manual
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, convex, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 6 bar
Diameter 44mm
Height 12mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black calf leather strap 145 g
Watch in stainless steel
with black calf leather strap 89 g
Pilot’s Watch Hand-Wound
Ref. IW3254

Features

Homage to the first IWC Portuguese watch
of 1939, hand-wound pocket watch movement,
platinum model limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 98295
Vibrations 18,000/ h / 2.5 Hz
Jewels 18
Power reserve 46 h
Winding manual
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, crossed out, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 3 bar
Diameter 44mm
Height 10mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black crocodile leather strap 103 g
Watch in stainless steel
with black crocodile leather strap 77 g
Portuguese Hand-Wound
Ref. IW5445

Features

Homage to the first Ingenieur with automatic
movement from 1955, with the 80111-calibre
movement successor with Pellaton winding
system, platinum model limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 80111
Vibrations 28,800/h / 4 Hz
Jewels 28
Power reserve 44 h
Winding automatic
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, crossed out, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 12 bar
Diameter 42.5mm
Height 14.5mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black crocodile leather strap 163 g
Watch in stainless steel
with black crocodile leather strap 99 g
Ingenieur Automatic
Ref. IW3233

Features

Homage to the first IWC diver’s watch, the
Aquatimer from 1967, with an inner rotating
bezel and the current 80111-calibre automatic
movement with Pellaton winding system,
platinum model limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 80111
Vibrations 28,800/h / 4 Hz
Jewels 28
Power reserve 44 h
Winding automatic
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, convex, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 12 bar
Diameter 44mm
Height 14.5mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black crocodile leather strap 193 g
Watch in stainless steel
with black rubber strap 122 g
Aquatimer Automatic
Ref. IW3231

Features

Homage to the first (electronic) Da Vinci, but
with the 80111-calibre automatic movement
with Pellaton winding system, platinum model
limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 80111
Vibrations 28,800/h / 4 Hz
Jewels 28
Power reserve 44 h
Winding automatic
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, convex, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 3 bar
Diameter 42mm
Height 13.5mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black crocodile leather strap 166 g
Watch in stainless steel
with black crocodile leather strap 115 g
Da Vinci Automatic
Ref. IW5461

Features

Homage to the original Portofino Reference
5251, with pocket watch movement and
extremely precise moon phase display,
platinum model limited to 500 watches
Movement
Caliber 98800
Vibrations 18,000/ h / 2.5 Hz
Jewels 18
Power reserve 46 h
Winding manual
Case
Materials platinum, stainless steel
Glass sapphire, crossed out, antireflective
Back sapphire glass
Dial silver-plated, black
Water-resistant 3 bar
Diameter 46mm
Height 11mm
Weight
Watch in platinum
with black crocodile leather strap 121g
Watch in stainless steel
with black crocodile leather strap 85 g
Portofino Hand-Wound
Ref. IW5448

[Jaw]

My apology.
Jaw

[damien]

do you have a shot of the back case of the portofino? is it essentially the same handwound movement as the pilot but with a moonphase module? iwc also doesnt seem to have said anything about the accuracy of the moonphase.

inceidentally, that is one heck of a carrying case.

[Jaw]

You are right Damien, the case-back view looks almost identical to that of the Portuguese.

Here it is.



Jaw

[damien]

its probably been mentioned many times, but i do wish they would put international watch company instead of iwc on the dials, especially for these jubilee editions. in this regard, panerai is certainly more receptive to colector comments.

[watchculture]

are really weak now
All so stunning but which one should I pick? The Ingenieur or the Port or the Fino

[Jaw]

Buy the set and the decision will be easier

Jaw

[watchculture]

Mmmm...Jaw, I love your suggestion

[Wimster]

Stunning post!

thanks Jaw for this great post, I love this set and especially the Aquatimer and the Portugueser are my two favourites.

super job by IWC!

cheers, Wim

[Jürgen]

What a bulk of information I hope that I can remember half of it within the next hour...

Thanks Jaw

[zephyr49]

Jaw, thanks for the post and pics update! But are there any pics of the actual moon on the Portofino Moonphase? So far I've not seen it on the pics yet. I assume the impressive leather lined carrying briefcase is for the lucky collectors who will be buying the platinum collection? Darn, I wish I can have that too!


Lionel

[Jaw]

Yes, the generous leather lined box is for the Platinum set.

Jaw

[hotnerd]

I love the vintage Aquatimer

I think the vintage divers IWC, JLC, and Longines have come out with this year will be very successful.

Cheers,
Bhanu

[horsefeathers]

Really like the Pilots Watch, then the Aquatimer and then the Ingenieur!

[Horolographer]

First - Thanks Jaw for the report and update on the Vintage series. I believe this will be a windfall series for IWC. Nothing like remake of what sells well.

But more importantly - I notice from the image you put up that the original Portuguese with the white dial has Roman Numerals all round but the Vintage Series has alternate Arabic markers. Which one is the correct one?

Harry

[Monochrome]

Beautiful

Just a few minor points i need to say...

1. I miss the "International Watch Co" on the Aquatimer dial.... without this the dial misses something IMHO

2. sapphire crystal? Why no plexi, because plexi is sexy

For the rest nothing than my compliments to IWC. I think they read the forums as well and saw that there are a lot of people waiting for some of that vintage-love

[Fred925]

Thanks for sharing these pics Jaw!!!
I was subjugated by the press pics...but with your pics... I find the wathes less modern than they appeared

[Jaw]

The Poruguese original is with Roman numerals, the vintage reissue is with Arabic numerals.

Jaw

[Jaw]

Regarding the Vintage reissue, some want the watches to be exactly like the real first edition originals while others prefer a more modern interpretations. Most, I suspect are quite pleased with the final "Vintage".

One man's meat...

Jaw

[eddiesng]

the Portofino, Portuguese or the Da Vinci. Thanx for the great pix Jaw.

The Portofino and Portuguese are "safe" and "very IWC" choices for me. Although the Da Vinci is VERY IWC (images of quartz), I somehow find it alluring... very "old". Appeals to me somewhat...

I like the case back of the Portofino and Portuguese and the fact that it is 18,000vph... Thanks and have a great weekend to you and all Horomundians...